Restoring/moving model?

Hi
I want to alter Model so that its transaction logs and
datafiles are on different drives,so that new dbs created
on this server get the same configuration.
When I try to restore Model with a with_move option it
says I can't do that.
How can I acheive what I want?
Would remaning Model, and the creating a new db called
Model in the config I want work?Have a look at this old post :-
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=co4joN3eCHA.1308%40cpmsftngxa08
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"felix" <felix@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> I want to alter Model so that its transaction logs and
> datafiles are on different drives,so that new dbs created
> on this server get the same configuration.
> When I try to restore Model with a with_move option it
> says I can't do that.
> How can I acheive what I want?
> Would remaning Model, and the creating a new db called
> Model in the config I want work?
>|||To move the model database, SQL Server must be started
with trace flag 3608 so that
it does not recover any database except
the master.
NOTE: You will not be able to access any user databases at
this time.
You should not perform any operations
other than the steps below while using
this trace flag.
To add trace flag 3608 as a SQL Server startup
parameter:
After adding trace flag 3608, perform the following
steps:
1. Stop and restart SQL Server.
2. Detach the model database as follows:
use master
go
sp_detach_db 'model'
go
3. Move the Model.mdf and Modellog.ldf files from D:\Mssql7
\Data to
E:\Sqldata(or any other drives).
4. Reattach the model database as follows:
use master
go
sp_attach_db 'model','E:\Sqldata\model.mdf','E:\Sqldata\mod
ellog.ldf'
go
--e:\ or any other drives
5. Remove the -T3608 trace flag from the startup
parameters box in the
Enterprise Manager.
6. Stop and restart SQL Server. You can verify the change
in
file locations using
sp_helpfile:
use model
go
sp_helpfile
go
Koohyar
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>--Original Message--
>Hi
>I want to alter Model so that its transaction logs and
>datafiles are on different drives,so that new dbs created
>on this server get the same configuration.
>When I try to restore Model with a with_move option it
>says I can't do that.
>How can I acheive what I want?
>Would remaning Model, and the creating a new db called
>Model in the config I want work?
>.
>|||To add to the other responses, the default location of new database data
and log files is not determined by the model database file locations.
The default file locations can be specified via Enterprise Manager under
server properties --> database settings.
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Hope this helps.
Dan Guzman
SQL Server MVP
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"felix" <felix@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
> I want to alter Model so that its transaction logs and
> datafiles are on different drives,so that new dbs created
> on this server get the same configuration.
> When I try to restore Model with a with_move option it
> says I can't do that.
> How can I acheive what I want?
> Would remaning Model, and the creating a new db called
> Model in the config I want work?
>|||Thanks Dan,
Much more simple than I thought then! Your suggestion
worked a treat.
Felix
>--Original Message--
>To add to the other responses, the default location of
new database data
>and log files is not determined by the model database
file locations.
>The default file locations can be specified via
Enterprise Manager under
>server properties --> database settings.
>--
>Hope this helps.
>Dan Guzman
>SQL Server MVP
>--
>SQL FAQ links (courtesy Neil Pike):
>http://www.ntfaq.com/Articles/Index.cfm?DepartmentID=800
>http://www.sqlserverfaq.com
>http://www.mssqlserver.com/faq
>--
>"felix" <felix@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:007a01c38ce8$52b4d570$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
>> Hi
>> I want to alter Model so that its transaction logs and
>> datafiles are on different drives,so that new dbs
created
>> on this server get the same configuration.
>> When I try to restore Model with a with_move option it
>> says I can't do that.
>> How can I acheive what I want?
>> Would remaning Model, and the creating a new db called
>> Model in the config I want work?
>
>.
>

Restoring model and msdb databases goes to wrong file locations

Hi,
I am working on a script which should be able to restore a full sql server
2000 automatically. When I do a full restore of the system databases the
file locations of the mdf and ldf files don't change but when I restore the
differential backup the ldf file places it self in the default directory of
Microsoft SQL Server.
So my script looks like this:
restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with norecovery,
replace
go
restore database model from disk ='c:\backup\modeldiff.bkf' with
recovery,replace
go
The model log file should go into "e:\database\data\" but instead it goes
into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data"
why does it work fine when I do like this:
restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with recovery,
replace
but not when I want to do a diff restore?
I know I can detach and attach the model database, but then I also have to
stop and start the database with a trace flag - not very pretty...
Any ideas?
ChristofferYou can view the physical files from the backup using
restore filelistonly. If you need to have the files in
another location, use the move option in the restore script
to specify the physical file locations.
-Sue
On Tue, 17 May 2005 16:49:57 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:
>Hi,
>I am working on a script which should be able to restore a full sql server
>2000 automatically. When I do a full restore of the system databases the
>file locations of the mdf and ldf files don't change but when I restore the
>differential backup the ldf file places it self in the default directory of
>Microsoft SQL Server.
>So my script looks like this:
>restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with norecovery,
>replace
>go
>restore database model from disk ='c:\backup\modeldiff.bkf' with
>recovery,replace
>go
>The model log file should go into "e:\database\data\" but instead it goes
>into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data"
>why does it work fine when I do like this:
>restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with recovery,
>replace
>but not when I want to do a diff restore?
>I know I can detach and attach the model database, but then I also have to
>stop and start the database with a trace flag - not very pretty...
>
>Any ideas?
>Christoffer
>|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:47dl81t4qahcv4l8gjbrb6c8oo934vl09p@.4ax.com...
> You can view the physical files from the backup using
> restore filelistonly.
Correct, I can view the paths with restore filelistonly and it shows the
correct file locations.
> If you need to have the files in
> another location, use the move option in the restore script
> to specify the physical file locations.
No, You cannot use the move option with system databases.|||Yes you can use with move. You can follow the example in the
following knowledge base article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=304692
-Sue
On Wed, 18 May 2005 08:55:37 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:
>"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
>news:47dl81t4qahcv4l8gjbrb6c8oo934vl09p@.4ax.com...
>> You can view the physical files from the backup using
>> restore filelistonly.
>Correct, I can view the paths with restore filelistonly and it shows the
>correct file locations.
>> If you need to have the files in
>> another location, use the move option in the restore script
>> to specify the physical file locations.
>No, You cannot use the move option with system databases.
>|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:3s9m811b194jc1qs0v74kugnhqcfg2c4lo@.4ax.com...
> Yes you can use with move. You can follow the example in the
> following knowledge base article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=304692
>
In the article is mentioned the following:
NOTE: These instructions in this article do not apply to SQL Server 2000.
The response from the server is :
tempdb is skipped. You cannot run a query that requires tempdb.|||One of the trace flags settings is different on 2000 if you
are following all of the steps but you can restore with
move. Follow the trace flags in the following article or
just use attach/detach as the article does:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224071
-Sue
On Wed, 18 May 2005 15:35:57 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:
>"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
>news:3s9m811b194jc1qs0v74kugnhqcfg2c4lo@.4ax.com...
>> Yes you can use with move. You can follow the example in the
>> following knowledge base article:
>> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=304692
>In the article is mentioned the following:
>NOTE: These instructions in this article do not apply to SQL Server 2000.
>The response from the server is :
>tempdb is skipped. You cannot run a query that requires tempdb.
>|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:otpn81df0cncebavp40flr7v071i8nn22b@.4ax.com...
> One of the trace flags settings is different on 2000 if you
> are following all of the steps but you can restore with
> move. Follow the trace flags in the following article or
> just use attach/detach as the article does:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224071
I can still not do a restore with a move as described in my first posting.
if I am going to use detach/attach then we are back to my first posting..
which I want to avoid.|||Hi Christoffer,
As Sue said, I am afraid we will have to use detach and attach in this
scenario. I wanted to post a quick note to see if there is anything more I
could help you on this topic.
Sincerely yours,
Michael Cheng
Microsoft Online Partner Support
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Restoring model and msdb databases goes to wrong file locations

Hi,
I am working on a script which should be able to restore a full sql server
2000 automatically. When I do a full restore of the system databases the
file locations of the mdf and ldf files don't change but when I restore the
differential backup the ldf file places it self in the default directory of
Microsoft SQL Server.
So my script looks like this:
restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with norecovery,
replace
go
restore database model from disk ='c:\backup\modeldiff.bkf' with
recovery,replace
go
The model log file should go into "e:\database\data\" but instead it goes
into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data"
why does it work fine when I do like this:
restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with recovery,
replace
but not when I want to do a diff restore?
I know I can detach and attach the model database, but then I also have to
stop and start the database with a trace flag - not very pretty...
Any ideas?
Christoffer
You can view the physical files from the backup using
restore filelistonly. If you need to have the files in
another location, use the move option in the restore script
to specify the physical file locations.
-Sue
On Tue, 17 May 2005 16:49:57 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:

>Hi,
>I am working on a script which should be able to restore a full sql server
>2000 automatically. When I do a full restore of the system databases the
>file locations of the mdf and ldf files don't change but when I restore the
>differential backup the ldf file places it self in the default directory of
>Microsoft SQL Server.
>So my script looks like this:
>restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with norecovery,
>replace
>go
>restore database model from disk ='c:\backup\modeldiff.bkf' with
>recovery,replace
>go
>The model log file should go into "e:\database\data\" but instead it goes
>into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data"
>why does it work fine when I do like this:
>restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with recovery,
>replace
>but not when I want to do a diff restore?
>I know I can detach and attach the model database, but then I also have to
>stop and start the database with a trace flag - not very pretty...
>
>Any ideas?
>Christoffer
>
|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:47dl81t4qahcv4l8gjbrb6c8oo934vl09p@.4ax.com...
> You can view the physical files from the backup using
> restore filelistonly.
Correct, I can view the paths with restore filelistonly and it shows the
correct file locations.

> If you need to have the files in
> another location, use the move option in the restore script
> to specify the physical file locations.
No, You cannot use the move option with system databases.
|||Yes you can use with move. You can follow the example in the
following knowledge base article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=304692
-Sue
On Wed, 18 May 2005 08:55:37 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:

>"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
>news:47dl81t4qahcv4l8gjbrb6c8oo934vl09p@.4ax.com.. .
>Correct, I can view the paths with restore filelistonly and it shows the
>correct file locations.
>No, You cannot use the move option with system databases.
>
|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:3s9m811b194jc1qs0v74kugnhqcfg2c4lo@.4ax.com...
> Yes you can use with move. You can follow the example in the
> following knowledge base article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=304692
>
In the article is mentioned the following:
NOTE: These instructions in this article do not apply to SQL Server 2000.
The response from the server is :
tempdb is skipped. You cannot run a query that requires tempdb.
|||One of the trace flags settings is different on 2000 if you
are following all of the steps but you can restore with
move. Follow the trace flags in the following article or
just use attach/detach as the article does:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224071
-Sue
On Wed, 18 May 2005 15:35:57 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:

>"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
>news:3s9m811b194jc1qs0v74kugnhqcfg2c4lo@.4ax.com.. .
>In the article is mentioned the following:
>NOTE: These instructions in this article do not apply to SQL Server 2000.
>The response from the server is :
>tempdb is skipped. You cannot run a query that requires tempdb.
>
|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:otpn81df0cncebavp40flr7v071i8nn22b@.4ax.com...
> One of the trace flags settings is different on 2000 if you
> are following all of the steps but you can restore with
> move. Follow the trace flags in the following article or
> just use attach/detach as the article does:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224071
I can still not do a restore with a move as described in my first posting.
if I am going to use detach/attach then we are back to my first posting..
which I want to avoid.
|||Hi Christoffer,
As Sue said, I am afraid we will have to use detach and attach in this
scenario. I wanted to post a quick note to see if there is anything more I
could help you on this topic.
Sincerely yours,
Michael Cheng
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
================================================== ===
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Restoring model and msdb databases goes to wrong file locations

Hi,
I am working on a script which should be able to restore a full sql server
2000 automatically. When I do a full restore of the system databases the
file locations of the mdf and ldf files don't change but when I restore the
differential backup the ldf file places it self in the default directory of
Microsoft SQL Server.
So my script looks like this:
restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with norecovery,
replace
go
restore database model from disk ='c:\backup\modeldiff.bkf' with
recovery,replace
go
The model log file should go into "e:\database\data\" but instead it goes
into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data"
why does it work fine when I do like this:
restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with recovery,
replace
but not when I want to do a diff restore?
I know I can detach and attach the model database, but then I also have to
stop and start the database with a trace flag - not very pretty...
Any ideas?
ChristofferYou can view the physical files from the backup using
restore filelistonly. If you need to have the files in
another location, use the move option in the restore script
to specify the physical file locations.
-Sue
On Tue, 17 May 2005 16:49:57 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:

>Hi,
>I am working on a script which should be able to restore a full sql server
>2000 automatically. When I do a full restore of the system databases the
>file locations of the mdf and ldf files don't change but when I restore the
>differential backup the ldf file places it self in the default directory of
>Microsoft SQL Server.
>So my script looks like this:
>restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with norecovery,
>replace
>go
>restore database model from disk ='c:\backup\modeldiff.bkf' with
>recovery,replace
>go
>The model log file should go into "e:\database\data\" but instead it goes
>into "C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data"
>why does it work fine when I do like this:
>restore database model from disk = 'c:\backup\model.bkf' with recovery,
>replace
>but not when I want to do a diff restore?
>I know I can detach and attach the model database, but then I also have to
>stop and start the database with a trace flag - not very pretty...
>
>Any ideas?
>Christoffer
>|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:47dl81t4qahcv4l8gjbrb6c8oo934vl09p@.
4ax.com...
> You can view the physical files from the backup using
> restore filelistonly.
Correct, I can view the paths with restore filelistonly and it shows the
correct file locations.

> If you need to have the files in
> another location, use the move option in the restore script
> to specify the physical file locations.
No, You cannot use the move option with system databases.|||Yes you can use with move. You can follow the example in the
following knowledge base article:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=304692
-Sue
On Wed, 18 May 2005 08:55:37 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:

>"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
> news:47dl81t4qahcv4l8gjbrb6c8oo934vl09p@.
4ax.com...
>Correct, I can view the paths with restore filelistonly and it shows the
>correct file locations.
>
>No, You cannot use the move option with system databases.
>|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:3s9m811b194jc1qs0v74kugnhqcfg2c4lo@.
4ax.com...
> Yes you can use with move. You can follow the example in the
> following knowledge base article:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=304692
>
In the article is mentioned the following:
NOTE: These instructions in this article do not apply to SQL Server 2000.
The response from the server is :
tempdb is skipped. You cannot run a query that requires tempdb.|||One of the trace flags settings is different on 2000 if you
are following all of the steps but you can restore with
move. Follow the trace flags in the following article or
just use attach/detach as the article does:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224071
-Sue
On Wed, 18 May 2005 15:35:57 +0200, "Christoffer B."
<StofferB@.online.nospam> wrote:

>"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
> news:3s9m811b194jc1qs0v74kugnhqcfg2c4lo@.
4ax.com...
>In the article is mentioned the following:
>NOTE: These instructions in this article do not apply to SQL Server 2000.
>The response from the server is :
>tempdb is skipped. You cannot run a query that requires tempdb.
>|||"Sue Hoegemeier" <Sue_H@.nomail.please> wrote in message
news:otpn81df0cncebavp40flr7v071i8nn22b@.
4ax.com...
> One of the trace flags settings is different on 2000 if you
> are following all of the steps but you can restore with
> move. Follow the trace flags in the following article or
> just use attach/detach as the article does:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=224071
I can still not do a restore with a move as described in my first posting.
if I am going to use detach/attach then we are back to my first posting..
which I want to avoid.|||Hi Christoffer,
As Sue said, I am afraid we will have to use detach and attach in this
scenario. I wanted to post a quick note to see if there is anything more I
could help you on this topic.
Sincerely yours,
Michael Cheng
Microsoft Online Partner Support
When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so
that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
========================================
=============
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Restoring Databases

I'm restoring user databases and I would like
confirmation that the system databases(master, model,
msdb)should be restored as well.
Any guidance would be appreciated.It Depends
What broke? Why are you restoring? What are you trying to accomplish?
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Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com
I support the Professional Association for SQL Server
www.sqlpass.org
"Me" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm restoring user databases and I would like
> confirmation that the system databases(master, model,
> msdb)should be restored as well.
> Any guidance would be appreciated.|||Hi,
What are you trying to accomplish by restoring system databases.
1. User Databases can be restored directly
2. MSDB, Model also can be restored directly
For restoring Master database we should start SQL server in Single user
mode.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Me" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0c4501c3fb27$9f373e80$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> I'm restoring user databases and I would like
> confirmation that the system databases(master, model,
> msdb)should be restored as well.
> Any guidance would be appreciated.

Restoring Databases

I'm restoring user databases and I would like
confirmation that the system databases(master, model,
msdb)should be restored as well.
Any guidance would be appreciated.It Depends
What broke? Why are you restoring? What are you trying to accomplish?
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com
I support the Professional Association for SQL Server
www.sqlpass.org
"Me" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0c4501c3fb27$9f373e80$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> I'm restoring user databases and I would like
> confirmation that the system databases(master, model,
> msdb)should be restored as well.
> Any guidance would be appreciated.|||Hi,
What are you trying to accomplish by restoring system databases.
1. User Databases can be restored directly
2. MSDB, Model also can be restored directly
For restoring Master database we should start SQL server in Single user
mode.
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Me" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0c4501c3fb27$9f373e80$a401280a@.phx.gbl...
> I'm restoring user databases and I would like
> confirmation that the system databases(master, model,
> msdb)should be restored as well.
> Any guidance would be appreciated.